read the papers yesterday midnite and did some thinking on this matter...
because of one comment (which i think it's true to a certain extent) fm our neighbour and you get aab and his gang all fired up... demanding for an explanation, demand lky to retract his statement, writing letter to him, etc...
wait... hang on...
correct me if am wrong.... if one is innocent enough to have the conscience of innocence, why must he bother to right the wrongs?!?... as cliche as it may sounds, the truth will prevail one day... or perphaps are they really feeling the pinch?!?...
the gungho kowtow chinese groups of bn.. mca and gerakan said absolutely nothing about this... whether right or worng... and here they are so called 'fighting' for the chinese day and nite... what?!?... huh?!?... what?!?... is this the 'typicality' for some kowtow groups in bn?!?... i guess so!...
one very good example on chinese being so called 'marginalised' and 'compliant'.. would be... the 9th mp... how many government projects gonna be awarded to pure chinese company?!?.. prolly none!... if my memory serves me right.... samy vellu said before quite some time back.. that the projects for the 9th mp will be awarded to the bumi company...
so, based on this simple example... wat you want the chinese to do?!?... sit and wait for the 10th mp?!?..
here they are spending millions or perhaps billions of ringgits promoting.. kita bangsa malaysia... kita semua anak malaysia... and yet think they are contradicting themselves...
when you hit someone right at the bulls eyes, think they would feel the pinch eh?!?...
p/s ; this posting is not to raise any racial tension/issues among us the muhibbahed mmners... just my thoughts on the government... perhaps a cakap tak serupa bikin case?!?...
PUTRAJAYA: Malaysia wants an explanation.
The Prime Minister will write to Singapore’s Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew seeking an explanation for his remarks that Malaysian Chinese had been “marginalised” and were “compliant”.
The comments could cause racial tension, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said yesterday, adding that a stable Malaysia was crucial to Singapore’s well being.
“I will write a letter to him. I want him to explain his statement,” Abdullah told reporters at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport yesterday upon arrival from London, after a two-week working trip abroad.
He was asked if he would demand an apology from Lee, whose statement has been criticised by Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak and Chinese politicians, including Gerakan president Datuk Seri Dr Lim Keng Yaik.
“Najib said it was a naughty statement and I agree. But it is also a statement which can incite Malaysian citizens of Chinese descent. It is not fair at all, for a neighbouring country to say that.
“Lee should understand that our relationship with Singapore is one that has to be nurtured well. He should appreciate the stability we have on our side, because if we are not stable, Singapore will have problems,” Abdullah said.
Lee made his remarks at a forum on the sidelines of the World Bank-International Monetary Fund meeting which the republic hosted last week.
He reportedly said that it was vital for Chinese-dominated Singapore to stand up against its bigger, Muslim-majority neighbours, Malaysia and Indonesia.
Lee said the attitudes of both countries were shaped by the way they treated their ethnic Chinese minorities.
“Our neighbours both have problems with their Chinese. They are successful. They are hardworking and therefore they are systematically marginalised,” he said.
Lee also said the Chinese in neighbouring countries were compliant, and that likewise, Indonesia and Malaysia wanted Singapore to be compliant.
Abdullah said Lee’s statement was “not welcomed” and the republic’s founding father had appeared to show no qualms about making such a highly-charged remark.
“Singapore too has problems in terms of race relations. Not everything there is 100 per cent perfect,” Abdullah added.
The Prime Minister arrived at 5.15pm and was greeted by Najib, Home Affairs Minister Datuk Seri Radzi Sheikh Ahmad and Deputy Internal Securities Minister Datuk Johari Baharom. Also present was Umno vice-president Tan Sri Muhammad Muhammad Taib, Inspector General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan and a crowd of over 100 party supporters.
While abroad, Abdullah had attended the Asia-Europe Meeting in Finland, the Non-Aligned Movement summit in Cuba and the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
Asked how he felt upon returning to Malaysia in the wake of tumultuous events in the region such as the coup in Thailand, he praised Malaysians for being calm.
“I am grateful that whatever happens, our citizens are calm and careful.”
He said foreign investors were still confident of Malaysia’s growth potential and he expected the local economy to do better, along with the global economy, as oil prices were projected to fall in the coming months.
Abdullah wished all Muslims “Selamat Berpuasa” and urged them to practice self-control.
He also said it would be “different” not having his late wife Datin Seri Endon Mahmood, around. Endon died a year ago of breast cancer.
“I have to cope with it. It is a reality. But it’s okay, my family is with me,” he said.
More calls for an apology
24 Sep 2006
MUAR: The fallout over Lee Kuan Yew’s comments on Malaysian Chinese being marginalised continued yesterday with several politicians asking him to apologise.
Umno vice-president Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin said that he did not know whether Singapore’s Minister Mentor had a hidden motive in making comments which were misleading and mischievous.
"We view with concern those comments. Lee should apologise and clarify his statements immediately," he said after visiting the country’s largest durian storage centre here yesterday.
Lee told a forum held in conjunction with the International Monetary Fund conference in Singapore that Malaysia and Indonesia had problems with their Chinese minorities because they were successful and hardworking and, therefore, they were systematically marginalised.
He was reported to have said that the attitude of Malaysia and Indonesia towards Singapore was shaped by the way they treated their own Chinese minorities.
They "want Singapore, to put it simply, to be like their Chinese — compliant", he claimed.
Muhyiddin said what Lee had expounded could be what was being practised in the republic.
He said Lee knew fully well that the Malaysian Chinese were successful and that the government encouraged Malays to learn business discipline and philosophy from them.
It would not bring any benefit to Lee or Singapore if there was misunderstanding among the people in the region over his comments.
Muhyiddin urged Lee to put his house in order first before criticising neighbouring countries.
Also taking exception to Lee’s comments was Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar.
"It is not right for the Minister Mentor to comment and instigate Malaysians or the Malaysian Chinese community that they are being marginalised. Not only is it not true, it amounts to an instigation.
"Why must they want to instigate our citizens to be dissatisfied with the government?"
He said the Chinese community in Malaysia was doing well in all sectors and that they could bring up any concerns themselves.
"I am very disturbed with that remark when racial relations in Malaysia have been good," he said.
The Barisan Nasional Backbenchers Club said that Lee should apologise to the Malaysian government and Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi for interfering in the affairs of the country.
just came across this article... this was wat i mentioned earlier... perhaps, the gungho chinese components in bn are absolutely nutin but some kowtow groups?!?...
a slight diversion fm the actual topic... mca helping the chinese?!?... yeah riteeeeeeee...
as reported... "Ong Ka Ting said that it is unfair and subjective to say the Chinese in Malaysia are marginalized because any injustices will be resolved by MCA. If that is the case, why is it that in Cabinet, four MCA Ministers can not convince but has to submit and bow down to one Education Minister Hishamuddin Tun Hussein Onn. Ong and the MCA Ministers even supported the Cabinet reprimand on Deputy Higher Education Minister Datuk Ong Tee Keat for interfering in another Ministry by exposing corruption."...
frankly, think their respective pockets and their stomach and their pride are wayyyyy more important than self respect tho...
think otk spoke the truth and prolly he opened few cans of worms which eventually got some people in trouble... and, knowingly mca is a well known kowtow group, they have no choice but support for otk to be reprimanded before he 'creates' anymore 'damage'...
the truth hurts indeed!...
Ong Ka Ting & Lim Keng Yaik Should Redeem Themselves By Asking UMNO Leaders To Stop Practicing The Politics Of Denial And Admit That Not Only The Chinese But Indians, Poor Malays and Non-Bumis In East Malaysia Are Systematically Marginalised.
by Lim Guan Eng
(Pontian, Sunday): MCA President Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting and Gerakan President Datuk Seri Dr Lim Keng Yaik should redeem themselves for blindly supporting BNï¿½s discriminatory policies by asking UMNO leaders to stop the politics of denial and admit that not only the Chinese but Indians, poor Malays and non-bumis in East Malaysia are systematically marginalized. If MCA and Gerakan cannot li zhe qi zhuang support Kuan Yewï¿½s comments, then they should li bu zing chong and not wei hu zhuo zhang in supporting UMNO in attacking Kuan Yew for speaking the truth. Or is truth the enemy of the state?
DAP expresses disgust at Ka Ting, Keng Yaik and Penang Chief Minister Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon for denying the obvious fact that Malaysian Chinese together with other non-Chinese have been systematically marginalized by discriminatory government policies that only favours the rich and politically connected. Such politics of denial is dishonest as BN leaders themselves has stated that discriminatory government policies such as quotas and the New Economic Policy that result in some political and social marginalization is necessary for racial harmony and national stability.
So long as BN leaders such as Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, Ka Ting and Keng Yaik can not rely on reason, facts and logic to disprove Singapore Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yewï¿½s claims then their emotional denials are like empty vessels making the most noise to cover up the politics of UMNO dominance and discrimination.
Koh claimed that Lee did not understand and appreciate the challenges in leading and administrating a country that was bigger, more complicated and diverse than Singapore and denied that the Chinese in Malaysia is ï¿½compliantï¿½. This is perverse logic. If so, then can we support he apartheid polices of South Africa in the 1980s just because South Africa was bigger more complicated and diverse than Malaysia? How can Koh be so thick skin to say that the Chinese is not compliant when he was compliant towards UMNO by not daring to even respond to attacks by Penang UMNO Youth leaders who humiliated him publicly with demonstrations and banners in his presence?
Ong Ka Ting said that it is unfair and subjective to say the Chinese in Malaysia are marginalized because any injustices will be resolved by MCA. If that is the case, why is it that in Cabinet, four MCA Ministers can not convince but has to submit and bow down to one Education Minister Hishamuddin Tun Hussein Onn. Ong and the MCA Ministers even supported the Cabinet reprimand on Deputy Higher Education Minister Datuk Ong Tee Keat for interfering in another Ministry by exposing corruption. Worse Ka Ting has not explained why he supported the Ninth Malaysian Planï¿½s refusal to build a single Chinese or Tamil primary schools out of the 180 new primary schools proposed?
Keng Yaik had said that, ï¿½the Chinese here will not follow and listen to what he saysï¿½ only shows how out of touch BN leaders are with the feelings of ordinary Malaysians. Keng Yaik and Ka Tingï¿½s denial that the Chinese in Malaysia are systematically marginalized by the BN governmentï¿½s discriminatory policies is not shared by ordinary Malaysians, whether Chinese or non-Chinese. Even in the Monster Blog (http://www.monsterblog.com.my/2006/09/22/frontpage-nst-22-9-2006-kuan-yews-comments-misleading/#comments) moderated by New Straits Times, nearly 80% of the contributors agreed with Lee Kuan Yew with less than 10% opposing and the remainder neutral.
Clearly such untruthful and false denials by Keng Yaik, Tsu Koon and Ka Ting are selfish acts that is politically motivated to enable them to cling to the government posts as Ministers and Deputy Ministers. If they are sincere in telling the truth to Malaysians, then they should not be adopting the hypocritic allegations Mahathir in asking how many Malays are holding top positions in the Singapore government. Mahathir has no right to practice double-standards ask these questions when there are no Chinese holding top positions in armed forces or police. There is not even a non-Malay Vice-Chancellor in a public university or a Mayor in any Malaysian city.
In fact Kuan Yew is half-right in that it is not only that the Chinese are marginalized. The Indians, poor Malays and bumis from East Malaysia are also marginalized. After all Sabah has the highest poverty rate in the country at 23% in 2004. The United Nations Human Development Report consistently list Malaysians as suffering the worst income inequality between the rich and poor in South-East Asia. This is conceded by the Ninth Malaysian Plan (9MP) which showed the share of income of the bottom 40% of the population declined from 14.5% in 1990 to 13.5% in 2004 whilst the share of the top 20% of the population increased from 50% in 1990 to 51.2% in 2004.
All Malaysians Face Marginalization
The income inequality, measured by the Gini coefficient, within the Chinese community worsened in the period 1999 to 2004 from 0.434 to 0.446 whilst for Indians from 0.413 to 0.425. The income inequality amongst bumis was even worse from 0.433 in 1999 to 0.452 in 2004. Marginalisation of Malaysians generally can be seen with the 9MP showing the Gini Coefficient nationally worsening from 0.452 in 1999 to 0.462 in 2004.
Not many Malaysians, whether Malay or non-Malay are rich like UMNO, MCA or MIC millionaires. How many Malays own APs or shares or are millionaires like UMNO Youth Deputy President Khairy Jamaluddin who can own RM 9.2 million worth of shares or like Datuk Roslan Hashim who can spend RM 3.5 million for his wedding or Minister in the Prime Ministerï¿½s Department Datuk Seri Effendi Norwawi eho can afford to give RM 20 million worth of properties and RM 1 milliojn cash to his former wife.
UMNO claims that the 30% bumi equity in the NEP has not been achieved. This is another desperate attempt to distract attention from the fact that in terms of market capitalization bumi corporate share has exceeded 45% with more than RM 325 billion. Clearly UMNO wants to avoid being questioned by the poor Malays who are the rich Malays who have benefited from this RM 325 billion.
It is therefore important that Malaysians do not allow the issue of Chinese being marginalized, which is a fact, from the serious issue that all Malaysians including poor Malays are marginalized by UMNOï¿½s discriminatory policies that benefit the few BN leaders at the expense of ordinary Malaysians.